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Turkish President Slams Bolton; Women Voters in 2020; Blame for Shutdown; Golden Globes Predicts Oscar Winners; Snow and Ice across Northeast; Clemson Beats Alabama. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired January 08, 2019 - 06:30 ET
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[06:33:14] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: New questions about U.S. policy in Syria. Turkey's president is now slamming President Trump's National Security Advisor John Bolton, who is on a trip overseas.
CNN's Nic Robertson is live with the breaking details.
What's going on here today?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, John Bolton is in Turkey today. He has met with Erdogan Spokesman Kalin. The outcome of that meeting isn't clear. Kalin is expected to speak in a short while. But what is absolutely clear is that Turkey's president is incensed by what John Bolton said when he was in Israel in the past couple of days, that a U.S. withdrawal of troops from Syria would be contingent on Turkey protecting, take caring of the U.S. allies in Syria. Those allies, the YPG, a Kurdish militia that the U.S. has been supporting in its fight against ISIS. The problem for Turkey is, it considered the YPG, those Kurdish fighters, to be part and parcel of the Kurdish parties that Turkey has been fighting with for decades. Therefore they consider them terrorists.
So what we've heard from President Erdogan today is, he says what Bolton has said is a serious mistake, is not acceptable. He -- Erdogan's -- President Erdogan says he made a deal with President Trump. He says Turkey keeps its deals. It keeps its word. It expects its allies to keep their word as well.
So where there seems to be going at the moment seems to be an escalation of tensions between the United States and Turkey. President Erdogan clearly unhappy that he thinks he got a deal, the U.S. pulling its troops out of Syria. He said that his forces are ready to go in and retake those areas that Kurdish militia, the YPG that the U.S. has been supporting, that they've been holding. We don't know which direction this is going in at the moment, but, clearly, John Bolton is right in this middle of it.
[06:35:16] John. Alisyn.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Nic, I think that that is really significant, that Erdogan says he had a deal with President Trump. Because, you know, President Trump has made it sound as though this was his own unilateral decision. He made this promise. The idea -- there was always talk that they had had a phone conversation. But the idea that Erdogan saw it as a deal with President Trump is not something that I think the American public necessarily saw it as until now.
ROBERTSON: No, it's very clearly Erdogan's understanding of the situation. He makes it very clear in what is said today. We keep our word. We expect our allies to keep their word. And, indeed, he went further. He went beyond that to say, look, you know, that was an agreement between -- that I made with President Trump and we still consider President Trump as the point of reference on this. So he's essentially saying, not only is Bolton making a serious mistake, but that he is going to ignore whatever John Bolton said.
BERMAN: And that's the problem. The president's words and John Bolton's words right now are not at all in concert.
CAMEROTA: Nic, thank you very much.
All right, so as more Democrats prepare to throw their hat in the 2020 ring, which demographic do they need the most? Harry Enten tells us, next.
BERMAN: But first, a new CNN original series begins this Sunday at 9:00 p.m., "American Style." It gives a front row seat to the history of America's changing style trends. Here's a look.
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KIMBERLY TRUHLER, FILM AND FASHION HISTORIAN: The '40s and '50s were definitely America finding itself.
TIM GUNN, FASHION HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR: Americans felt very second rate when comparing ourselves to Europe.
VANESSA FRIEDMAN, CHIEF FASHION CRITIC, "THE NEW YORK TIMES": Sportswear became the defining style of the United States.
GUNN: The bikini was the biggest thing since the atom bomb.
DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, AUTHOR AND PROFESSOR OF HISTORY, RICE UNIVERSITY: Through the '60, '70s, our style in fashion represents freedom.
DR. TODD BOYD, PROFESSOR, STUDY OF RACE AND POPULAR CULTURE, USC: When you look at hippie culture, it's really oppositional to the Vietnam War.
CHRISTOPHER REID, ACTOR, COMEDIAN AND RAPPER, "KID 'N PLAY": Disco was very important in terms of people being free to express themselves.
CHRISTIE BRINKLEY, MODEL, ACTRESS AND BUSINESSWOMAN: In the '80s, it was a lot of excess in every way.
REID: We had our Calvin Kleins and our Ralph Laurens and our Donna Karens.
GUNN: Calvin Klein's advertising was rather scandalous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His underwear ad stopped traffic in Times Square.
BOYD: By the '90s and 2000, things had become less formal.
TINA CRAIG, CO-FOUNDER AND EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "BAG SNOB": Supermodels really brought fashion into every household.
JOHN A TIFFANY, FASHION HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR: Now, what's embraced is being yourself.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Style gives you a voice. It's freedom.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "American Style," premieres Sunday at 9:00 on CNN.
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[06:41:34] BERMAN: We have major developments in the race for president. Some big 2020 moves. "The Wall Street Journal" reports overnight that Beto O'Rourke is planning this solo road trip to meet voters outside of Texas. He's going alone, with no staff. He's going to do a lot of social media. That will be interesting to see.
In the meantime, Senator Kamala Harris of California, she begins a book tour today in advance of a likely presidential announcement.
What does this all mean? Joining us now to discuss, senior writer and analyst for CNN Politics, Harry Enten. There is something about Harry.
Look, when you look at 2020, and look at who will be deciding the outcome of the Democratic primary, there's a fairly quick and easy answer.
HARRY ENTEN, CNN POLITICS SENIOR WRITER AND ANALYST: It's women. And it's one of the things that I want to kind of point out is, look at where the polls are right now. Men are in the top four positions in our latest CNN poll, Biden, Sanders, O'Rourke, and Booker. But yet in the power rankings that I do with Chris Cillizza, we actually have Harris at one and then we have Warren at five and there are other women, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, who are also involved.
And why is that? Why are we elevating women higher than they are in the polls right now? And I think that this is a key thing that we have to recognize, and that is, women. Women voters make up a disproportionate percentage of the Democratic primary electorate. So they make up 58 percent of this versus in the 2018 general election they made up just 52 percent of voters. So women vote in very, very large numbers in Democratic primaries.
CAMEROTA: But so why does that make Kamala Harris number one in your assessment?
ENTEN: So one of the things I think is just so interesting is let's -- let's take a look at 2016, right. There was this very large gender gap that I don't think was really spoken about. Women voters went overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton. She won them by 21 points in the median state. There were 27 states that had an entrance or exit poll. Clinton won women by 21 points.
Among men, Bernie Sanders actually won by one point. So it's plausible that if women voted had decided to vote like men voters, Hillary Clinton would not have been the Democratic nominee.
BERMAN: If women vote for women, then the female candidates are at an advantage.
ENTEN: That's exactly right.
And take a look at what happened in 2018, right? We just spoke about the gender gap in 2016. Look what happened in the 2018 congressional primaries. A record 182 Democratic women won their House primaries. Women, 53 percent of those who ran in Democratic House primaries won. Only 33 percent of men who ran in Democratic House primaries won.
So we've basically seen, in the last two cycles, that women candidates have been dominating, that women seem to be voting for women. In fact, in a CBS News poll that was taken in 2015 showed that the second highest reason that women gave -- voters who voted for Hillary Clinton gave in that primary for voting for her was they said it was time for a woman president.
CAMEROTA: That's really interesting. But when will you see that reflected in public opinion polls? Why don't we see that?
ENTEN: I think part of the reason we don't see that is, you know, if you look at this -- this top Dem, you know, slide, what you see is that the two top candidates here have very high name recognition. A lot of the women who are running are not that well-known to the general electorate. Elizabeth Warren perhaps a little bit more so, but people like Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, they are just not well-known at this time. And so we're trying to put a little smarts into these ranking and that's why you see right now that Harris is one and Warren's five.
BERMAN: And that's why, watch the book tour. I'm going to touch the wall. Watch the book tour.
CAMEROTA: What? What?
ENTEN: What is this?
CAMEROTA: Is that allowed?
ENTEN: You can't -- what -- oh, I know, I know. I'm just making it more green.
BERMAN: Watch the book tour starting today.
Can I ask you --
ENTEN: Yes.
BERMAN: Because we've been talking a lot about the shutdown and the wall. What do the numbers tell us? [06:45:00] ENTEN: Yes, so, if we were to take a look -- I took a
Harry's average of polls -- and this is basically who Americans are blaming for the shutdown since it began. Trump overwhelmingly is winning that battle. More Americans are blaming Donald Trump than any --
CAMEROTA: Why does he get a tilday (ph)?
ENTEN: That's an about sign, so it's about 50 percent.
CAMEROTA: Oh.
ENTEN: You know, it's one of those things where I'm rounding the numbers because I don't need, you know, 49.6957423 on the screen.
CAMEROTA: Understood.
ENTEN: So 50 percent for Trump, 35 percent are blaming congressional Democrats and 5 percent are blaming congressional Republicans. So if we were to sum that all up in a very simple thing, it's 55 percent are blaming Republicans and 35 percent are blaming Democrats for the shutdown right now. Trump has his work cut out for him tonight.
CAMEROTA: All right, I don't know if you were watching the show yesterday, but John went really negative on "Bohemian Rhapsody," OK.
ENTEN: He did. He did.
CAMEROTA: So I don't know what that says about the Golden Globes versus the Oscars, but you do.
ENTEN: I do. So I -- you know, I did, in fact, watch that. John got more upset about that than perhaps he will be if the New England Patriots lose this weekend. We'll see on that.
BERMAN: So the New England Patriots are good. "Bohemian Rhapsody" isn't.
CAMEROTA: Oh, boy.
ENTEN: You know, I like clean, so I'm not going to say very much of anything. But I actually e-mailed my friend, Walter Hickey (ph), who has this nice website down here, he asked him, he's done all this stuff. And basically what we see is that the Golden Globes, if you win best drama, it's really not that predicted of whether or not you're going to win best picture. It's only 49 percent of the time. And even if you add in the comedy or musical, "Bohemian Rhapsody" is kind of in the middle there. Is it a drama? Is it a musical? What exactly is it? Even then it's -- that's only 15 percent.
CAMEROTA: Yes, I know what you're saying.
ENTEN: So it's less than two-thirds of the time that the Golden Globes pictures and you get two slices at the pie actually predicts best Oscar.
CAMEROTA: All right, so that should really comfort you this morning.
BERMAN: I do. So it's not going to win the best picture award.
CAMEROTA: It doesn't sound like it.
BERMAN: Thank goodness. Thank you, Harry.
ENTEN: "The Favorite" should have won. I loved that film.
BERMAN: There is something about you.
CAMEROTA: I really want to see that.
BERMAN: There really is something about you.
CAMEROTA: Thank you.
ENTEN: Thank you.
CAMEROTA: The comics ripping the federal government shutdown. Here are your late night laughs.
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SETH MEYERS, HOST, "LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS": President Trump has announced that he will give a live address from the Oval Office tomorrow night on the border wall. Wow, this must be serious business. I mean the last time someone gave a speech from the Oval Office -- oh, right, yes, never mind.
JIMMY FALLON, HOST, "TONIGHT SHOW WITH JIMMY FALLON": President Trump is refusing to end the shutdown until he gets $5 billion for a border wall. The Democrats have a plan. They're going to make Trump wear one of those blindfolds from "Bird Box" and just tell him there's a wall. Don't take it off.
STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": The wall is coming in "Game of Thrones" font. I can understand why Trump loves that "Game of Thrones" wall because the only walkers who got through were white.
JAMES CORDEN, HOST, "THE LATE LATE SHOW WITH JAMES CORDEN": And the president was asked about all the unpaid federal workers who were struggling to pay their bills, and Trump responded by saying that he, quote, can relate. That makes sense. I mean no one's more relatable than Donald Trump, right? He's just a regular, working class family man.
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CAMEROTA: That's a real picture.
BERMAN: Because nothing says working class like guilded (ph) stuff.
CAMEROTA: That's exactly right. And I think that the point about Kanye having given a recent speech in the Oval Office is also an interesting political point (ph).
BERMAN: Tonight, only seven minutes, though. I think Kanye went on well longer than that.
CAMEROTA: Great point. Great point.
BERMAN: The college football national championship game was not good.
CAMEROTA: Wait, it wasn't, because you told me to root for --
BERMAN: I mean the result was good. I like Clemson.
CAMEROTA: Yes, you told me to root for them because you said they had better outfits.
BERMAN: I think Alabama, I said, had better outfits.
CAMEROTA: Oh, you did?
BERMAN: But Clemson has a better football team.
CAMEROTA: Re-rack the tape because I think --
BERMAN: No one has a good game. The "Bleacher Report" is next.
CAMEROTA: All right.
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[06:52:32] CAMEROTA: A winter storm is sweeping across the northeast.
CNN meteorologist Chad Myers has our forecast.
How's this one looking, Chad?
CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: A little slick in the Berkshires this morning. Also even just to the west of Boston. But this isn't the storm we're actually looking at. We're looking at one for tonight that will be more significant.
This weather is brought to you by Zantac, eat your way, treat your way.
So, here it is. Here's the storm system coming across the Great Lakes right now. There may even be some thunder and lightning with this storm because it's so warm out there. Temperatures are in the 40s and 50s, even as far north as New York City.
So here's the snow for tomorrow morning into tomorrow afternoon, but it is really bottled up into New England. There may be six to 12 inches of some snow in some spots, but, really, this is not a big city area. The big cities are plenty warm today, 45, 59 in D.C. for today. And even for tomorrow, the cold air stays away but for one more day and that's it. All of a sudden, by the weekend, we're back into the 20s.
John.
BERMAN: Two hour delay my boys had this morning, which means they can watch the full show of NEW DAY, which is great for them.
Thanks, Chad.
Clemson claims its second national title in three years after dominating Alabama in the national championship game.
Coy Wire, who is the most exciting thing about this game, has more on the "Bleacher Report" from Santa Clara, California.
Hey, Coy.
COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: It was exciting for Tigers fans. My goodness, John, this was like a heavyweight title fight early, throwing haymakers back and forth. It was close for about a quarter, then Clemson stomped on the gas and never looked back. They obliterated Nick Saban and the defending champs who some were calling the greatest college team ever. Nobody knew they were about to run into a buzz saw in the form of two true freshmen, who looked like they could play in the NFL right now.
Just 19-years-old Trevor Lawrence became the second true freshman starting QB ever to win a national title. The kid was a machine, a stoic in a huge moment. Jaw-dropping throws. He tore Alabama's (INAUDIBLE) defense apart. Three touchdowns, 347 yards, nearly half of them going to the other true freshman, Justyn Ross, who was making incredible catches, but just took the life right out of Bama. He's from Alabama and he played like he had something to prove. His one- handed catch was so sick, he might as well have caught a cold. My goodness.
We caught up with Clemson's two young stars and head coach Dabo Swinney, who lead the Tigers in a 44-16 blowout win over Alabama. They're your national champs and the first major college football team to finish 15-0 since 1987.
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WIRE: Trevor, you just took down the Tide. How do you feel?
TREVOR LAWRENCE, CLEMSON QUARTERBACK: Great, man. It was a blessing. This team's amazing.
JUSTYN ROSS, CLEMSON WIDE RECEIVER: I can't describe it. I'm so excited for my teammates and everybody who helped us get here.
WIRE: And what do you have to say to Clemson football nation?
ROSS: We're going to be back next year. We're not done.
DABO SWINNEY, CLEMSON HEAD COACH: We're going to enjoy this tonight. But on Friday, we got a team meeting and it will be the start of a new journey and I can't wait to get started.
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WIRE: Dabo Swinney handed Nick Saban his biggest loss ever at Alabama, Alisyn. And the scary part is, Clemson might be even better next year. So, look out. Congrats to Clemson Tigers fans all across the nation this morning. Thanks, Coy.
I think you did steer me wrong yesterday because I think we checked the tape and you told me to root for Alabama because we liked their outfits, or I mean their costumes, better.
BERMAN: You -- you asked me who had the better uniform. You didn't say, who was the better team.
CAMEROTA: All right. Fair enough.
President Trump facing a credibility crisis as he prepares to address the nation tonight. Can he convince Americans there is actually a crisis on the Mexican border when they keep using erroneous stats? We discuss, next.
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