Jennifer Williams, an aide to Vice President Mike Pence, and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council aide, are testifying today before the House Intelligence Committee.
Here are some of the key takeaways so far:
- About the call: The July 25 call was not “perfect” based on what Vindman and Williams told lawmakers about the improper politics of the asks by President Trump. The President was acting on his own in the July call in asking for the investigations and was provided with no talking points to back that up.
- Vindman describes July 10 meeting: This is the first public description by an eyewitness of a demand in the White House of a direct quid pro quo by Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland.
- The witnesses have been careful: Witnesses are being very careful and are working to make sure their bona fides are stated publicly. They are clearly conscious of revealing information improperly and inviting retribution.
- On the transcript edits: Vindman makes clear in his mind the edits of the call transcript were “no big deal." He also said he understood the reason for putting the transcript in the server to prevent leaking.
- The vice president's role is not clear: Williams provides some backing to Vic President Mike Pence, describing what occurred in a meeting between him and the Ukrainian president in Warsaw. But Pence's role is still not totally clear, and Williams didn’t know contents about a Trump-Pence call after Warsaw meeting.
- There was a flare-up about the whistleblower: Republican Rep. Devin Nunes is working hard to make it appear like Chairman Adam Schiff is "hiding something." Nunes was clearly trying to make Vindman look like a leaker. Vindman does acknowledge talking to two people outside the White House, someone at the State Department and someone in intelligence.